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Chief Nathaniel Oladipupo Oke ,one of
the leading counsels to Governor
Olagunsoye Oyinlola recently joined
the governorship race on the platform of
PDP in Osun State. He is not a
green-horn in Osun politics; he showed
interest in 2002 before abandoning it
for his professional calling. In this
interview with our correspondent,SEFIU
AYANBIMPE , Oke speaks on his ambition
and debunked the insinuation that he is
being sponsored by the Ooni of Ife.
Excerpts:
Q: Why are you in the governorship race?
Ans: I believe my present ambition is of
the Lord, the present battle is of the
Lord and I repeat it here again that
more often than not and I want to say
that in all situation the battle is not
usually for the strongest neither is the
race for the fastest. My own ambition is
God’s Own Project which He will execute
for the progress and development of the
state. I also believe that God will give
the elders of the party both at the
National and State level of wisdom in
chosen aright and in the course of
wanting to choose, I would rather
suggest that we should not rely on
influence, we should not rely on wealth
,they should really seek the heart of
God.
Q: It was learnt that there was a
meeting held at the private residence of
the State Vice Chairman of your party,
where some delegates made oath to
support an aspirant. By now, if the
aspirant start taking oath to some of
these delegates at the primary, how
transparent will the selection process
be?
Ans: There is an adage that says that no
matter how you are knowledgeable, one
cannot put himself or herself on the
throne. It is God who appoints, it is
God who anoints even when you are
exercising influence, all these may
amount to nothing if they are not
anointed by God, we are about 16 in the
race now, who will succeed the incumbent
governor today, I must confess to you,
it is only God who can say
categorically. In 2002 I took form, we
were about 22, the incumbent governor,
Prince Olagunsoye Oyinlola wanted to
become senator and at the end of the day
God said no one among all of us, he was
voted in 2003 as governor of the state.
At any point in ones’ life, God has
certain reason for wanting certain
people to live, the only thing the
person should have in mind is that you
are used for right purpose at a
particular point in time. If you go to
Bible in the book of Samuel, you will
see that various kings are used
positively or negatively for a purpose
and up till now, we are referring to
them inclusive king Ahab, we also have
Hezekiah, David, Saul and we have
various lessons of life from these
people. Let me tell you since creation
of Osun State about 20 years ago now, we
have been having leaders at the
helm of affairs of the state and in
about 20 or 30 years to come, we now go
into history by saying in the
administration of certain person, this
and this is what he did to improve the
condition of people and what are his
achievements. There is no amount of
manipulations that can stand the test of
time. If God says yes, it is the
final and if God says no, no matter the
amount of manipulations it would not
work.
Q: Is it true that your coming out
now in the governorship race has the
backing of a prominent traditional ruler
in the state?
Ans: The fact is, it is not really
possible to work with your head, while
walking, you need to really open your
eyes wide, don’t jump out without making
some consultations with the people
generally at all cadre of life. I want
to say that I am familiar with the Ooni
of Ife, Oba Okunade Sijuwade because
everybody is aware that we used to have
Baale in my village, Akinlalu. The then
Baale was installed in 1968 when I was
in primary four at St. Stephen Primary
School, Akinlalu. At a time, we made a
representation to Ooni of Ife, Oba
Okunade Sijuwade that we want upliftment
of our Baale and Ooni promised then that
he will look into our request and while
the processes were on, there were some
interpersonal interaction with the Ooni.
So, there is no personal undertaking and
I am not being sponsored by anybody. I
want to use this opportunity to say that
I am not using this opportunity for the
purpose of seeking political
appointment. I have come out to
really say what I want to do. I want to
become the next executive Governor of
Osun State after the expiration of
tenure of office of Prince Olagunsoye
Oyinlola and Ooni is not sponsoring me.
Q: You mention youth empowerment as the
main focus of your agenda, what approach
would you introduce to achieve this?
Ans: The approach I am desirous of using
having made consultations is to
encourage the youths to form groups or
associations through which they can be
reached by government. I believe this is
a better way of having people empower
than allow them to be riding on Okada
for the purpose of wanting to make ends
meet. Some of them might not be able to
pursue their professional career just
because they come from poor home and
could not afford what they were asked to
bring to learn certain apprenticeship.
Instead of these people riding Okada
about, you can arrange them in groups
and appoint leaders at various level in
batches for the purpose of having the
names of people who are actually
desirous in wanting to embark one
apprenticeship or the other, at the end
of the day. At end of the day after the
expiration of apprenticeship, you should
encourage them by making materials
available to them for the purpose of
practicing the profession. What I am
saying in essence is that these youths
would have their own leader so that they
would be able to make their request
known to the government and in whichever
aspect we can actually sustain them, I
will not hesitate in doing that because
if they are not restful, we cannot be
restful. If you don’t train your own
children and you said there is no
problem later in life the people you
don’t train will be the people that will
be troubling your own children when they
don’t have anything to do because
morally, they will believe that what you
are actually enjoy is not through hard
working but you are benefiting from the
national cake which they can also
entitle to.
Q: How would you sustain the relative
peace in the state?
Ans: With the help of God and entire
people of the state, my administration
would be transparent enough in all its
programmes and policies and projects
executions and once this is done, I
don’t believe there would be any cause
for anyone wanting to disrupt the peace
of the state and I want to state clear
that there would be no reason for it
because the administration will put God
and in whatever you involve God, it will
work out perfectly.
Q: I want you to look into Osun State
University built with multi – campus
institution, there is the feeling that
the volume of cash that the school is
taking from state’s purse is quite
enormous and then it appears that it is
lopsided in project execution by the
state government. When you come in, you
are going to inherit the programmes, you
will see that in all these campuses are
in shambles .Now, with the revenue base
of the state how are you going to cope
with it?
Ans: You don’t just condemn the
administration of your predecessor in
office, what was the rationale behind
the adopted approach. If there is need
to change, you should know that, would
this change be more beneficial to the
present situation of thing. The
circumstances that made them take that
decision may be different from the
circumstances other which would be
operating when you get there, you don’t
just take a rash decision, you make
consultation, you would see it black and
white, these are the reason we took that
decision when we took it, are they still
applicable, are there reasons for the
purpose of wanting to merge, do you want
to shift one campus to go and merge with
the other, do we have multi campuses,
all these things are not individual
decision, even ………. because politically,
if care is not taking, you are saying
that you want to economize you may be
creating circumstances that will make
your administration most un-peaceful and
if you are not having a peaceful
atmosphere, there is nothing you can
achieve and there are some people now
that cannot sleep because of their
source of their wealth but if you are
having internal peace, I am telling you,
you have a clear health but if you are
having conflict of mind, there would be
problem. When you get to power, you
don’t condemn, what are the way you can
amend and I am using this opportunity
that any viable project that remain
uncompleted, unconcluded in the tenure
of Oyinlola’s administration, not only
because I am in PDP, if it is going to
be generally beneficial to the state, I
will complete them. What is the essence
of abandoning projects because you want
to make name.
Q: This is our eleventh year of
democracy, we are still lagging behind
in certain fundamental areas and most of
the government policies at the national
and state level are not materializing
nor realizable as expected, what do you
think is wrong?
Ans: Policy duration differs from one
another, when we were young, we used to
hear of vision 2010, we have reached
2010 now and we have started another
2020. The truth of the matter is this,
except there is consistency in
governance, common focus, regard certain
policy as not being personal policy but
policy that is of fundamental interest
to the whole country there is every
possibility of abandonment of policies.
If a successive administration is not
showing interest in a particular policy,
there is tendency for that policy not to
see the light of the day except they
share the common focus and apart from
that, the issue of duration is still
there, there are certain policy that may
not necessarily be concluded in the
tenure of office of an individual even
if he or she is given two terms, if they
say 2020 from 2010 remain 10 years and
you can be in office more than two terms
and if certain elongated policies are
not concluded before you leave office
for one reason or the other, they may
not be realizable.
Q: As a lawyer and one of the counsels
in the State Election Petition
Tribunal, how do you think the nation
can do away with delayed
dispensation of election petitions?
Ans: Delay in trial at tribunal, before
now, it is only through only
pleading that you now bring petition to
court, you now be calling different
witnesses, you may not even know the
witness you are going to call. It was
for the purpose of removing this long
period being used in the course of
trying election petition matters that we
now come to this issue of
front-loading. In the trial from some
states, you may decide to call about
100 witness, it is only who you
physically called that court will act on
their
evidence and the moment you now stated
in your petition that these are
witnesses I want to call, you cannot now
say again that I have an additional
witnesses except you are able to give
genuine reasons, one of the means by
now crying for the purpose of
accelerating the trial is by this
frontloading. Administration of justice
has its own technicalities which
normally make it very difficult … In the
course of trial, certain things
unbudgeted for may arise but I
would suggest that there should be
cooperation among the judicial officers,
lawyers and contenders and their
supporters because they have their own
role
to play. One day, we are in Ekiti,
between Oni and Fayemi, when a witness
was to be used, he said they amputated
his leg because of gunshot he
received in a cause of crisis that
occurred at collation centre, when we
got
to the court room, what do they do, they
brought contaminated amputated leg
from a bucket in the court room saying
this is the leg, the court registrar
immediately called Court…..because
nobody could stay a minute longer.
Q:You are Senior Advocate of Nigeria
(SAN) and I like you to answer this
question professionally. The appointment
of INEC chairman, how do you think
the appointment should be as a legal
luminary, is it from National Assembly
or National Judicial Council (NJC)?
Ans: The issue of appointment of INEC
chairman, I think it should not be
personal decision but even then,
everything borders on integrity, if the
head is rotten, the whole of the body
will be rotten, this issue of who
appoints is not much of the issue as to
who is appointed. ………..
The issue of appointment of INEC
chairman should be more open so that the
person to be appointed virtually
all we have confidence in that
individual. Whoever appointed should be
aware
that history will judge him.
Q: Your co-contenders in the
governorship race may want to employ
different tactics in achieving their aim
and with the spate of thuggery and
hooligalism in the Nigeria politics, are
you up to the task?
Ans: Despite the fact that I am native
of Osun State, they made me member of
election petition tribunal and local
government appeal tribunal in Oyo
State, some people were saying Oke was
not from Oyo State. He is from Osun
State but the then Chief Judge of Oyo
State, Justice Nurudeen Adekola said I
wanted this man in that panel, I was
made a member in 1976 in Ibadan and
they swore me in around 6pm. I was
chairman Nigeria Bar Association Ibadan
Branch between 1998 and 1999. When I was
about to contest then, people said
N.O Oke it is you we want, if you don’t
contest for the purpose of this
election, there is nothing you will be
interested in Ibadan that we give you
again because you are the one we want,
my opponent then was vice chairman of
the branch, I was nothing, just an
ordinary member but as God will do
things, the vice chairman that wanted to
contest with me was appointed
Attorney General for Ekiti State in
person of Justice A K Fowe. I was
returned unopposed as the chairman of
NBA Ibadan branch. The point is this
if you are known for violence they will
be using you for violence, if you
have criminal tendency the kind of
people that will engaging you will have
criminal tendency. If you are known for
thuggery, I am telling you, no
responsible assignment will be given you
more than thuggery.
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And Osun PDP Denies annointing any candidate
State Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Alhaji Ademola Razaq
has warned party members to refrain from nursing a do or die posture towards
winning governorship ticket on the platform of the Peoples Democratic Party.
Alhaji Ademola Rasaq in a press statement signed by the party’s Director of
Publicity, Prince Adeolu Adeyemo, stated that the attainment of governorship
ticket is in the hand of God
The Osun PDP Chairman implored them, especially those aspiring to
various political
offices in the new political dispensation to learn from the progressive
leadership style of Governor Oyinlola, pointing out that he has become a
cynosure of all eyes for bringing home true dividends of democracy to Osun
State.
Alhaji Ademola Razaq who debunked insinuations presently raging in the media
concerning alleged preferential treatment for an EXCO-favoured aspirant,
affirmed that the party has no anointed candidate, adding that it is the
guarantee of the successful tenure of the serving Governor that is uppermost
in the mind of the party
Alhaji Razaq said that the process of electing a governorship candidate is
not a clandestine affair and stressed that if there is anything that the PDP
is internalizing, it is the mission by the national secretariat that the
state EXCO should ensure the victory of internal democracy.
He assured that it is never in the character of the PDP to shun the wisely
counsel of its elders in the party and explained that all the vital
stakeholders in the party are involved in the decision making process
governing the PDP and congratulated Prince Olagunsoye Oyinlola who flagged
off his campaign in Okuku.
Stressing the importance of peaceful co-existence in the party, the Chairman
who stated that undiluted loyalty and fairness are necessary for a winning
team, called on party members to remain committed to the cause of the PDP;
adding that their positive contributions would be taken into account when
sharing the dividends of democracy.
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